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Welcome back for part two of our exploration of some of Ed and Lorraine Warren's most famous cases. Josh then joins the party with his curmudgeon corner that includes women's dress code....AGAIN....and making plans during hunting season. Thanks for listening and as always, you can leave us your opinions and comments on our website! We want to hear from you! www.icbympodcast.com and be sure to follow us on all social media, @icbympodcast.
Oh Canada
Angeline Compau:my home and native land
Rebecca Smith:I feel like a Canadian when I sing that song
Angeline Compau:well you kind ofare. fuck you Canada for your gum by the way your gum is disgusting
Rebecca Smith:so we just did our snack box and it was Canada
Angeline Compau:first of all big fucking thumbs down because y'all suck
Rebecca Smith:what?
Angeline Compau:their stacks were no bueno
Rebecca Smith:they were it was mostly candy which is what you guys don't like I like it.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:cuz I'm a sweet girl. Sweet Girl people.
Angeline Compau:I like the gushers
Rebecca Smith:you like the jellies
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:I don't like jelly as much I like the chocolate and there was a lot of chocolate in this one.
Angeline Compau:There was a good cream soda in there which I love cream soda. You don't but I didn't like all the chocolate. Ah, and then they threw this pack of gum that says right on the package. Tastes like soap. And it wasn't joking. It's disgusting.
Rebecca Smith:It tasted like for anybody that does like essential oils it tasted like a thieves soapy type
Angeline Compau:I can't get the taste out of my mouth
Rebecca Smith:it's my mouth still tastes a little like patchouli
Angeline Compau:It's so gross.
Rebecca Smith:It was bad.
Angeline Compau:Oh my god I feel like it's just it's in my stomach.
Rebecca Smith:But what was funny is you didn't know that going in because you didn't read the package
Angeline Compau:no I didn't.
Rebecca Smith:And you put it in your mouth and then I read it and then immediately you spit it out
Angeline Compau:I had to I wasn't listening to you read it at all. I just was like, Ah, I'm gonna put this in my mouth. Bad idea.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah, bad idea.
Angeline Compau:So Josh is gonna take that pack of gum to work and just hand it out and not tell people
Rebecca Smith:give them some gum.
Angeline Compau:People are gonna be pissed I love it.
Rebecca Smith:So funny
Angeline Compau:surprise, bitches
Rebecca Smith:surprise your gum tastes like soap
Angeline Compau:sick.
Rebecca Smith:So how have you been?
Angeline Compau:I forgot to tell you last week
Rebecca Smith:what
Angeline Compau:that I got my toes done. I got a pedicure. And the guy was a nice younger boy. He's probably man but he looked like he was 12 he's like rubbed my feet for I kid you not like 20 minutes
Rebecca Smith:Nice
Angeline Compau:I seriously almost fell asleep in the chair. I had the massage chair going he's rubbing my feet rubbing my legs all up I'm like oh my god, I'm never leaving
Rebecca Smith:Angelie's gonna like cream her jeans for that.
Angeline Compau:I almost did Oh my god. I thought tha
Rebecca Smith:see, this is what he does. He goes downstairs gets a dog all riled up.
Angeline Compau:I can't
Rebecca Smith:doesn't tell him to shut up.
Angeline Compau:I am too distracted thinking about this foot massage yesterday.
Rebecca Smith:Sorry, you're still in your lap of luxury. Can I just tell you
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:that I was just looking at my email while you're telling your story not because I'm bored.
Angeline Compau:rude.
Rebecca Smith:I know. But I'm glad I did because I got a message from our website.
Angeline Compau:Oh,
Rebecca Smith:that says I can be your mother has one new review.
Angeline Compau:Awesome.
Rebecca Smith:But it says five stars. I heart this podcast.
Angeline Compau:Aww,
Rebecca Smith:Then it says My favorite thing about this podcast number one, Greg Louganis. Number two Josh's curmudgeon report. Number three, check, check, check.
Angeline Compau:Yes.
Rebecca Smith:All the things that I don't like aside from Greg Louganis. No, I like Josh. I like his curmudgeon report
Angeline Compau:me to
Rebecca Smith:he's a fan favorite.
Angeline Compau:Yes.
Rebecca Smith:Fan Favorite. Well thank you, whoever left this left us that nice review on our website. Everybody
Angeline Compau:I have
Rebecca Smith:you can do that. You can go rate us and subscribe to our podcast and all of our social media and leave comments on our website. Even voicemail messages.
Angeline Compau:I told Michelle the other night to leave us a review. So if that was you
Rebecca Smith:Ahh, it was probably her,
Angeline Compau:if that was you. Thank you.
Rebecca Smith:Oh, Michelle. You're so good. Yeah, so anybody follow be like Michelle.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:be like Michelle
Angeline Compau:be like Michelle be cool.
Rebecca Smith:Be Cool.
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Don't be all on cool.
Angeline Compau:Yeah. She is pretty fucking cool.
Rebecca Smith:She is. Okay. Are you ready for part two?
Angeline Compau:Yes. Part Two me.
Rebecca Smith:Ed and Lorraine Warren. Let me go back. Let's go back. Let's take it back.
Angeline Compau:Okay,
Rebecca Smith:the next. Okay, we'll do the Enfield Poltergeist first 1977 the Warrens investigated claims that a family in North London so they're global people. They're not just in the United States.
Angeline Compau:This is conjuring two
Rebecca Smith:Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. suburb of edenfield was haunted by a poltergeist activity. While a number of independent observers dismiss the incident as a hoax carried out by attention hungry children. The Warrens were convinced that it was a case of demonic possession. The story was the inspiration for the Conjuring 2. Although critics say the Warrens were involved to a far lesser degree than portrayed in the movie. And in fact had shown up to the scene uninvited and been refused admittance to the home.
Angeline Compau:That sounds like some stuff that I've researched before I, when I looked into them,
Rebecca Smith:yeah,
Angeline Compau:I heard that they showed up most places uninvited.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah. It's like, it's kind of like that TV show supernatural where you're just looking for things.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yep.
Rebecca Smith:Guy Lyon Playfiar A parapsychologist who investigated the Enfield case alongside Maurice gross, also says the film greatly exaggerated the role in, the Warren's role in the investigation. He stated in 2016 that they turned up once that Ed Warren told playfair they could make a lot of money out of the case. He corroborated the claim that the Warrens were not invited to the Enfield house and that nobody in the family had ever heard of him until Ed Warren turned up. I don't remember the story. What's the Enfield? I don't remember?
Angeline Compau:Um, I remember the movie was with the the kids. There was the little girls and the girl was possessed by the old man that died in that house. remember that?
Rebecca Smith:I don't remember I saw that movie so long ago. Enfield, Yeah, Enfield poltergeists was a claim of supernatural activity 284 Green Street, a council house and Brimsdown Enfield, London, England. Good day, Gov'ner. I can't do a British accent
Angeline Compau:You made me nervous. Now I can't do it.
Rebecca Smith:between 1977 and 1979. involving two sisters aged 11 and 13.
Angeline Compau:Oh my goodness. You're so silly.
Rebecca Smith:some members of the Society for psych psych psychiatry, psychiatry research, such as inventor Maurice gross and writer guy lyon playfair believe the haunting to be genuine, while others such as Anita Gregory and john Beloff were unconvinced and found evidence the girls faked incidents for the benefit of journalists.
Angeline Compau:That's weird.
Rebecca Smith:Okay, here's the story. 1977 Single parent Peggy Hodgson called the police to her into her rented home of Enfield, claiming she had witnessed furniture moving and the two of her four children said that knocking sounds were heard on the walls. The children included Margaret age 13 janet age 11. A police constable said that she saw a chair wobble and slide, but could not determine the cause of the movement later claims and included disembodied voices, loud noises, thrown toys, overturned chairs, and children levitating. Over a period of 18 months more than 30 people including the neighbors psychic researchers, journalists said they variously saw heavy furniture moving of its own accord objects being thrown across the room, and the daughter seeming to levitate several feet off the ground. Many also heard and recorded knocking noises and a gruff voice. The story was covered in the Daily Mirror until the reports came to an end in 1979. So it just stopped?
Angeline Compau:Yeah, that's weird.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:you know how you know that's not real then because ghosts don't just stop.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah, they had bunch of people come out, do stuff.
Angeline Compau:The whole movie I remember was Janet being like, possessed like the old man was haunting the house. And then he like would take over her body and she would talk like this old man it was. It was creepy.
Rebecca Smith:skeptic Joel Nickell examined the findings of paranormal investigators and criticized them for being overly credulous. When a supposedly disembodied demonic voice was heard. playfair noted that, as always, Janet's lips hardly seem to be moving. He states that a remote controlled still camera. The photographer was not present in the room with the girls timed to take a picture every 15 seconds, was shown by investigator Melvin Harris reveal pranking by the girls. He argues that a photo allegedly depicting Janice levitating actually shows her bouncing off the bed as if it were a trampoline Harris called the photos examples of common gymnastics and said it's worth remembering the Janet was a school sports champion.
Angeline Compau:Oh,
Rebecca Smith:wow.
Angeline Compau:Okay,
Rebecca Smith:way to rain on everybody's parade.
Angeline Compau:right.
Rebecca Smith:I don't know can you make money off of paranormal stuff?
Angeline Compau:I guess.
Rebecca Smith:I mean, if you open your own occult museum
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Okay, this is the one that I just watched though.
Angeline Compau:Okay.
Rebecca Smith:The current Did you watch this one? The Conjuring the devil made me do it.
Angeline Compau:No, I haven't seen that one yet.
Rebecca Smith:Oh,
Angeline Compau:Is that on something or is that
Rebecca Smith:I don't know if it's on it now,
Angeline Compau:or did that come out in theaters
Rebecca Smith:when it first came out? It came out on HBO. I think because it came out during and so it streamed
Angeline Compau:Oh,
Rebecca Smith:On HBO as well as, wherever I think
Angeline Compau:I want to watch it
Rebecca Smith:that's how I saw it. 1981
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:Arnie Cheyenne Johnson was accused of killing his landlord Alan Bono. Ed and Lorraine Warren had been called prior to the killing to deal with an alleged demonic possession of the younger brother of Johnson's fiance The Warren's subsequently claim that Johnson had also been possessed. at trial, Johnson attempted to plead not guilty by reason or demonic possession, but was unsuccessful in his plea. That was a good movie.
Angeline Compau:Was it?
Rebecca Smith:Yeah.
Angeline Compau:Is it still on HBO?
Rebecca Smith:I don't know if it is now, I'm not sure. So it was February 16 1981. Johnson called in sick to his job at right Tree Service and joined Debbie at the kennel where she worked along with his sister, Wanda and Debbie's nine year old cousin Mary. Bono, the couple's landlord and Debbie's employer at the kennel, bought the group lunch at a local bar and proceeded to drink heavily. After lunch, the group returned to the kennel. Debbie then took the girls out to get pizza, but instead they returned quickly anticipating trouble. When they returned, Bono intoxicated at this point became agitated. Everyone left the room at Debbie's urging except Bono who sees Mary and refused to let go. Johnson headed back to the apartment and ordered Bono to release Mary. Wanda recounted the following events to police. Mary ran for the car as Debbie attempted to mitigate the situation by standing between the two men. Wanda tried in vain to pull Johnson away. Johnson growling like an animal then drew a five inch pocket knife and stabbed Bono repeatedly. Bono died several hours later. According to Johnson's lawyer, Bono had suffered four or five tremendous wounds, mostly to his chest, and one that stretched from his stomach to the base of his heart. Johnson was discovered two miles from the site of the killing and was held at the Bridgeport Correctional Center on bail.
Angeline Compau:This is scary.
Rebecca Smith:I know. The incident led to the creation of a television film titled the demonic, the demon murder case. The day after the killing. The Lorraine Warren informed the Brookfield police the Johnson was possessed when the crime was committed. So in the movie, they're doing a Exorcism of his fiance's brother,
Angeline Compau:okay
Rebecca Smith:And everybody's like gathered around or whatever, and he was like, super upset by it. And in the movie, he kind of like tells the demon you know, leave him alone take me and so then of course,
Angeline Compau:demons don't do that.
Rebecca Smith:I know
Angeline Compau:Just sayin
Rebecca Smith:a media blitz surrounded the story fueled in part by the Warrens, whose agents promised that lectures, a book and even a movie detailing the gruesome case were in the works. Martin Mennella, Johnson's lawyer received calls from all over the world about what was being called the demon murder trial. Manila traveled to England to meet with lawyers who had been involved in two similar cases, but neither went to trial, he planned to fly in exorcism specialists from Europe and threatened to subpoena the priest who oversaw David Glatzel's exorcisms if they did not cooperate with the defense. The trial took place in Connecticut Superior Court in Danbury beginning October 20 1981. minella attempted to submit a plea of not guilty by virtue of possession. But the presiding judge promptly rejected this defense. Callahan argued that no such defense could ever exist in a court of law due to lack of evidence and that it would be irrelative and unscientific to allow related testimony. The defense chose to imply that Johnson acted in self defense. Because of this, the jury was not legally allowed to consider demonic possession as a valuable explanation for the killing. The jury deliberated for 15 hours over three days before convicting Johnson on November 24 1981 of first degree manslaughter he was sentenced to 10 to 20 years in prison though he only served five
Angeline Compau:I don't like when that happens. I'm more upset about that than the other stuff.
Rebecca Smith:Well, I mean the guy that he murdered clearly was no model citizen or whatever and was on his way to committing a crime himself
Angeline Compau:I know but if you're gonna get sentenced to some time, do your time
Rebecca Smith:Oh, you don't like the whole idea of parole for early
Angeline Compau:Yeah, no, you get sentenced to 20 to life or whatever you're not getting out in five because you were good in prison.
Rebecca Smith:Well, if he had a demon? How did they get it out of him? That's how I want to know what's he ever exercised? He was in jail
Angeline Compau:exercise the demon. so glad you reminded me of that.
Rebecca Smith:Um, well, I mean clearly I don't know who made money off of this? The Conjuring the devil made me do it was the name of the movie that Oh, and then the guy the murderer and the girl got married. Happy ending.
Angeline Compau:Happy ending
Rebecca Smith:Jinx, buy me a coke. so that that was the conjuring the devil made me do it. That's the latest one. Yeah,
Angeline Compau:okay. Okay, I gotta watch that.
Rebecca Smith:Then there was this one. The Snedeker House? Have you heard of this one?
Angeline Compau:No.
Rebecca Smith:1986 Ed and Lorraine Warren arrived and proclaimed the snedeker house a formal former funeral home to be invested. with demons, the case was featured in the 1993 book in a dark place the story of a true haunting a TV film that later became part of the Discovery Channel series, a haunting was produced in 2002 and The Haunting in Connecticut, a film very loosely based on the Warrens version of events and directed by Peter Cornwell.
Angeline Compau:Okay,
Rebecca Smith:it was released in 2009.
Angeline Compau:That does sound familiar.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah. I know, I probably saw a Haunting in Connecticut. I didn't I didn't see a haunting
Angeline Compau:Haunting in Connecticut. So I think I listened to a podcast about the snedeker house. I think. if you like a good creepy podcast about paranormal stuff. And they do a lot of episodes about Ed and Lorraine Warren cases.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah.
Angeline Compau:Lights out.
Rebecca Smith:Oh,
Angeline Compau:on Spotify, it'll creep you out. So lights out. It's really good.
Rebecca Smith:There you go. People Okay, so The Haunting in Connecticut who was haunted?
Angeline Compau:You're asking me
Rebecca Smith:Yeah.
Angeline Compau:Oh, I don't know. I don't know.
Rebecca Smith:I'm trying to see what it's based on. But it's not telling me Okay, so it says horror author Ray garden, who wrote an account of of the alleged haunting of the snedeker family in Southington, Connecticut, later called into question the veracity of the accounts contained in his book saying the family involved which was going through some serious problems like alcoholism, drug addiction, could not keep their story straight. And I became very frustrated. It's hard writing a nonfiction book when all the people involved are telling you different stories, to paranormal to, to paranormal investigator Benjamin Radford garden set of Lorraine, if she told me the sun will come up tomorrow morning, I get a second opinion. Wow,
Angeline Compau:that's funny.
Rebecca Smith:Not nice.
Angeline Compau:That's funny.
Rebecca Smith:I'm just gonna look up the snedeker house and see if I can get like a story.
Angeline Compau:That's too bad. You didn't know about my podcast? Lights out because I'm looking at the episode right here number 34.
Rebecca Smith:Oh, it is
Angeline Compau:The Haunting in Connecticut. And I was like, Oh, I started listening to it. And I never finished it. Which is why I was like, why does that sound so familiar?
Rebecca Smith:It was a possessed house. So this is kind of like I an Amity type situation?
Angeline Compau:Yeah. Let me see.
Rebecca Smith:Okay. In 1986. The Snedeker family moved into a simple white duplex rental home in Southington, Connecticut that had at one time had been a funeral home. In the basement they found various mortuary toys, including hoisting apparatus for coffins and medical Gurney blood drains toe tags. Soon enough, the Snedeker were reporting all kinds o evil, including sexual attacks apparitions, and abrupt violen personality changes in the oldest son who was undergoing treatments for Hodgkin's disease. Ed and Lorraine Warren, the Connecticut demonologists, who were involved in the infamous Amityville Horror case, investigated the house and officially proclaimed it possessed and then launched a major media campaign around it
Angeline Compau:oohh,
Rebecca Smith:eventually other facts emerged including troubled nature of the oldest son who, besides having a drug habit, was diagnosed with schizophrenia and admitted to some of the vileness going on in the snedeker household. In addition during the entire time the pandemonium was in full swing the upstairs neighbor lived without incident that's not good if somebody is in the same dwelling and not having any issues at all. You got it. Got it.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, yeah.
Rebecca Smith:The most damning is testimony of the of the author hired to write the original book for the Warrens. And the snedeker's ray garden garden eventually went on record to say that it was made up but no that didn't stop the story from being popular.
Angeline Compau:Dang
Rebecca Smith:thats The Haunting in Connecticut,
Angeline Compau:I want to watch that movie.
Rebecca Smith:I know I've seen it. I usually watch all this crap when it comes out
Angeline Compau:yeah, that well when that came out I did I was not into scary stuff. So I know I didn't
Rebecca Smith:so you did not
Angeline Compau:no, that's why I didn't watch the conjuring's when they came out. I was like No thanks and then I should have listened to my old self because I watched it and it was
Rebecca Smith:so good.
Angeline Compau:Not
Rebecca Smith:so good.
Angeline Compau:I mean, it was so good. It was bad. You know what I mean?
Rebecca Smith:Alright, then there's like these last two that I don't know if these were actually based on movies, or movies have been made yet of these but the Smurl family Have you heard of them
Angeline Compau:no
Rebecca Smith:Pennsylvania residents jack and Janet Smurl reported their home was disturbed by numerous supernatural phenomena, including sound smells, apparitions.
Angeline Compau:Hmm.
Rebecca Smith:The Warrens became involved and claimed that the Smurl home was occupied by four spirits and also a demon that allegedly sexually assaulted jack and Janet Why are demons sexually assaulting people now? When did that start happening?
Angeline Compau:I don't know and that's another thing that if you become a ghost don't try and assault me okay?
Rebecca Smith:Why would I assault you? I'd assault like Brad Pitt or someone
Angeline Compau:leave me alone. Leave me alone. I don't want any part of it.
Rebecca Smith:Brad Pitt I'm coming for you
Angeline Compau:remember in Scary Movie too, when the
Rebecca Smith:no cuz I never saw those member
Angeline Compau:Oh my god. What's wrong with you? What Okay, first of all, that's what you need to do on the plane this week is watch the scary movies.
Rebecca Smith:Oh my god,
Angeline Compau:the second one. It's Tori Spelling, is in it and she gets
Rebecca Smith:she was in scream too.
Angeline Compau:Oh, was she?
Rebecca Smith:in the, one of the sequels of scream
Angeline Compau:Oh, well, she gets. She has sex with a ghost. And then she becomes obsessed with the ghost. And the ghost is trying to get rid of her because she's annoying. And he's like, oh my god. It's hilarious.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah, remember, there's a remark and scream where they're like, so and so will play you and she goes with my like, gonna be Tori Spelling.
Angeline Compau:Ah,
Rebecca Smith:and so then she played her in the sequel, and that's why it was funny.
Angeline Compau:Oh, I don't remember that.
Rebecca Smith:Yes, yeah,
Angeline Compau:I don't know if I saw the second one.
Rebecca Smith:There's like four of them.
Angeline Compau:I don't know if I saw it.
Rebecca Smith:If I have to watch scary movies. You have to watch all the screams.
Angeline Compau:I've seen the first one. That's the only important one.
Rebecca Smith:I'm just saying.
Angeline Compau:I'm gonna tell you though. Scary Movie one and two. worth seeing
Rebecca Smith:Okay,
Angeline Compau:three and four, meh.
Rebecca Smith:I'll look it up if they're streaming though,
Angeline Compau:okay.
Rebecca Smith:The Smurl's version of their story was the subject of the 1986. paperback titled The haunted and television film of the same name. The haunted?
Angeline Compau:I don't remember that.
Rebecca Smith:Smurl haunting. I don't like that word Smurl.
Angeline Compau:I hate that word. I'm with ya on that.
Rebecca Smith:it reminds me of Smurf.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, what an unfortunate name.
Rebecca Smith:There's unfortunate smells in my house do but I don't think it's posessed.
Angeline Compau:no right now yours is just sardines.
Rebecca Smith:I think it is just Josh.
Angeline Compau:He ate sardines today.
Rebecca Smith:Yes, he did and he stunk up everything
Angeline Compau:because who does say who eats that?
Rebecca Smith:Josh. Josh does
Angeline Compau:gross.
Rebecca Smith:The Smurls told press they were tired of the constant media bombardment. However, within a few months they had authored along with Ed and Lorraine Warren the paperback. Jeez Louise smurls.
Angeline Compau:Jeez Louise.
Rebecca Smith:Alright, the last one union Cemetery in eastern Connecticut Ed Warren's book graveyard. True hauntings from an old England cemetery.
Angeline Compau:Oh
Rebecca Smith:features a white lady ghost, which haunts human union cemetery, which he claims to have captured her essence on films.
Angeline Compau:Really?
Rebecca Smith:That's what he claims.
Angeline Compau:Well, where's the footage?
Rebecca Smith:Probably in that museum?
Angeline Compau:pics or didn't happen.
Rebecca Smith:Okay, so according to most ghost hunters, okay, so union cemetery, the cemetery located near Stephanie road. In Eastern Connecticut. The site dates back to the 1700s I feel like anything from the 17 1800s is automatically going to be haunted.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why we don't buy old houses.
Rebecca Smith:But they're not always mean hauntings. Didn't you see Beetlejuice? They were nice.
Angeline Compau:Oh yeah. except for Beetlejuice.
Rebecca Smith:According to ghost hunters, it is one of the most haunted haunted, Connecticut demonologist and Lorraine Warren ever written a book about the cemetery but that report reported hauntings the white lady haunts as well as Stephanie cemetery and Monroe like other white lady ghost stories as there been a white there's been a Woman in White movie right? Yeah, I think so
Angeline Compau:you would know more than me.
Rebecca Smith:There's been a Woman in White movie well and then that La Llarona is kind of like that too.
Angeline Compau:Oh,
Rebecca Smith:that's good.
Angeline Compau:I thought you were gonna say my sharona.
Rebecca Smith:Oh no. My Sharona. Oh, yeah,
Angeline Compau:I don't think that was it.
Rebecca Smith:Whatever. Yes. Da na na da na na.
Angeline Compau:Oh, now you got it.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah, whatever I need in my head.
Angeline Compau:Okay,
Rebecca Smith:shut up. Alright, so clearly, Ed and Lorraine Warren. I don't know Do you believe them? You believe they're real?
Angeline Compau:Well, so cuz I did some research when I got really freaked out. And so the way they always showed up uninvited, to places
Rebecca Smith:the uninvited
Angeline Compau:you'd like if something was kind of going on, and they heard about it, they were going to London and going to these places to help them and all of a sudden, you know Lorraine's. She's clairvoyant. And oh my god, there's evil spirits here.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah.
Angeline Compau:And so that kind of stuff. Like, I don't know. I kind of don't believe that I do. I believe in demons and ghosts.
Rebecca Smith:you believe they exist but you don't think
Angeline Compau:I don't know if I believe that the Warrens really had
Rebecca Smith:a gift.
Angeline Compau:No, no, I think they knew what sold and that that's why they profited so much after you know, because at the times when these are happening in the 70s, like newspapers, books, magazines, all the stuff that they would put out about this kind of stuff was making a lot of money.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:so I don't know if I believe them.
Rebecca Smith:You're not the only one Angeline
Angeline Compau:I know
Rebecca Smith:a lot of people don't believe them.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:this says, according to 1997 interview with Connecticut post, Steve novella, and Harry deangelis investigated the Warrens for the New England skeptical society.
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:I didn't know, there was a skeptical society. They found the couple to be pleasant people, but their claims of demons and ghosts to be at best tellers of meaningless ghost stories and at worst dangerous frauds.
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:They took the $13 tour, and looked at all the evidence that the Warrens had for spirits and ghosts. They watched the videos and looked at the best evidence the Warrens had. Their conclusion is that it's all Blarney
Angeline Compau:Blarney
Rebecca Smith:Blarney. baloney. They found common errors with flash photography and nothing evil in the artifacts that the Warrens had collected. They have a ton of fish stories about evidence that got away. They're not doing good scientific investigation, they have a pre determined conclusion, which they adhere to literally and religiously. According to novella, Lorraine Warren said that the problem with Perry and Steve is they don't base anything on God.
Angeline Compau:Oh.
Rebecca Smith:novella responded and said it takes work to do solid critical thinking to actually employ your intellectual faculties and come to a conclusion that actually reflects reality. That's what scientists do every day. And that's what skeptics advocate. In an article for the Sydney Morning Herald that examined whether supernatural films are really based on true events. The investigation was used as evidence to the contrary, as novella is quoted, they the Warrens claimed to have scientific evidence which does indeed prove the existence of ghosts, which sounds like a testable claim, and to which we can sink our investigative teeth. But what we found was a very nice couple, some genuinely sincere people, but absolutely no compelling evidence. While it was made clear that neither de Angeles nor novella thought the Warrens would intentionally cause harm to anyone. They did caution that claims like the Warrens served to reinforce delusions, and confuse the public about legitimate scientific methodology. So is there a scientific thing out there that says ghosts are real, I wonder, or is it all just like ghost hunter stories, like people like, self taught?
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:I know, there's a skeptical society, probably looking at all those people, but
Angeline Compau:I well, and even Okay, so like, for me, I guess, if you base your whole career off of proving everybody's wrong about everything, then what do you believe in?
Rebecca Smith:I think,
Angeline Compau:I don't know,
Rebecca Smith:you can kind of do that, to an extent with everything
Angeline Compau:exactly.
Rebecca Smith:But I mean, that's why, you know, for everything out there that says, this, this and that, you can find 10 other things that say why that thing is wrong.
Angeline Compau:Right.
Rebecca Smith:So I don't know. And that's scientific research, too, right?
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:I don't know.
Angeline Compau:See, I I've had some experiences where I'm like blue eyed. That's why I totally believe in ghosts. Because I've had some experiences. I know. Right Now, if I walked into that creepy room with all their little artifacts, I would be able to tell you right away, if it was real or not
Rebecca Smith:really
Angeline Compau:I am very, I'm very in tune.
Rebecca Smith:nice
Angeline Compau:It's not that great. Sometimes, I get creeped out super easily, i'm like hm
Rebecca Smith:so like, when we would go to the haunted house and stuff does that creep you out or no because that's not like really real stuff. You know it's not real
Angeline Compau:no, that doesn't creep me out.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah.
Angeline Compau:But I went to my, my friend Becky lived in this house. She was renting it. And first of all, before like she before she even told me anything about this house. I walked through it. She was giving me a tour. And we walked upstairs, and I was like this your room? She goes yeah. And I was like something off about this room. I don't like it. I don't like the room like the second we walked upstairs. I knew something was weird about that room. And she was like, Yeah, I heard that. There was a death in the house and it was like up here and I was like no way because I was like the second I walked up there. It was weird, but the rest of the house was cool. And then she I asked her later on she lived there for like three or so years. She always had roommates, her boyfriend live there. And she said that some weird shit would go down in that house like that house was 100% haunted.
Rebecca Smith:Wow,
Angeline Compau:weird.
Rebecca Smith:Do you feel anything weird in my house?
Angeline Compau:No, your house is cool. My dad's old house that my grandpa died in my my parents had just gotten divorced. And I was seven years old and my grandpa died like a couple months before and when he moved in and I would go visit I didn't like that house. And I especially didn't like my grandpa's room. And I told my dad later on in life I never said anything as a kid and I was like I don't know why but your house always creeped me out like there was like grandpa was in there watching me he goes oh he was like my dad said the same thing he goes he could totally sense it too and I was like we
Rebecca Smith:we need to go have Brunch at the holly hotel. rd!
Angeline Compau:No,
Rebecca Smith:come on.
Angeline Compau:No because I will feel something and I don't like it I hate when it happens to me I hate it I don't like that feeling man.
Rebecca Smith:I just want to look at you and be like do you feel it you feel it
Angeline Compau:maybe I'll turn I'll if I maybe if I drink enough. I won't I don't feel anything.
Rebecca Smith:Oh they serve drinks.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, I'll just get drunk and I won't feel anything but it creeps me out that Josh felt somebody push him
Rebecca Smith:he did
Angeline Compau:oh, I don't like that. See? I don't like it
Rebecca Smith:I love it.
Angeline Compau:Oh,
Rebecca Smith:I love it
Angeline Compau:yeah
Rebecca Smith:creepy we used to do that we used to after church my little group of friends and I we would go either we would go well they would do ice blocking which do you know what ice blocking is? I think I told you about this
Angeline Compau:I don't think so.
Rebecca Smith:So you find like uh, because we were in Tucson we don't have snow or anything
Angeline Compau:Oh yeah,
Rebecca Smith:so you'd get those big blocks of ice from the store and you'd go find out like hilly like park or whatever and you ice block down the hills and
Angeline Compau:you guys
Rebecca Smith:just kind of like setting but
Angeline Compau:that's hilarious.
Rebecca Smith:We'd do that or there was by El Dorado I think it's El Dorado hospital if I remember correctly the name an abandoned insane asylum. We used to go in there
Angeline Compau:no
Rebecca Smith:like there was like the windows were boarded up but they weren't like shut
Angeline Compau:see that will creep me out
Rebecca Smith:so we would break in there.
Angeline Compau:No No No
Rebecca Smith:With our flashlights and run around
Angeline Compau:No.
Rebecca Smith:That was creepy, but it was fun.
Angeline Compau:No.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah. We were basically delinquints
Angeline Compau:I mean, I
Rebecca Smith:church delinquints
Angeline Compau:That's funny. I like that. But insane asylums terrify me.
Rebecca Smith:Really?
Angeline Compau:Oh yeah, I'm terrified. I think it's because of American Horror Story
Rebecca Smith:It was super creepy it felt like like it looked like that
Angeline Compau:Oh yeah. i don't like that Oh,
Rebecca Smith:like shit like mattresses and like papers on the ground. And yeah,
Angeline Compau:no,
Rebecca Smith:it was creepy.
Angeline Compau:No, I like it. That creeps me out. American Horror Story that second season really messed me up with the whole asylum thing.
Rebecca Smith:Whoo. Do you watch this? Are you watching the season?
Angeline Compau:I'm behind. But I watched the first part.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:I've finished that. Which I was not impressed.
Rebecca Smith:No,
Angeline Compau:no.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:I didn't like it. American Horror Story. I'm not liking stories. And I didn't
Rebecca Smith:You didn't like stories you didn't like that little
Angeline Compau:No, I didn't like the double feature. The first part anyway was not good.
Rebecca Smith:I thought it was alright.
Angeline Compau:I don't know the little girl really just pissed me off.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah, she's kind of a bitch
Angeline Compau:annoying. You're not even believable. Like Shut up.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:she's still in it?
Rebecca Smith:Oh, there Oh, from the last one that I saw. Yeah.
Angeline Compau:Okay. Yeah. God double feature.
Rebecca Smith:I like it. I like anything scary though.
Angeline Compau:I liked pretty much every other season except for the apocalypse one wasn't very good.
Rebecca Smith:Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Angeline Compau:Freak Show was eh, but every other season of American Horror Story
Rebecca Smith:I liked Freak Show.
Angeline Compau:It was you know what, compared to apocalypse and this new this one? freak show is way better,
Rebecca Smith:they did that, um, what was that was that one on Netflix about the haunted house. The Haunting of Hill House or something
Angeline Compau:Oh, yeah,
Rebecca Smith:Those were good
Angeline Compau:that good was real good. It's trying to play so I am two episodes behind.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah, I liked that. Macaulay Culkin was on it.
Angeline Compau:Oh, me, too. He did a really good job.
Rebecca Smith:I love him.
Angeline Compau:He almost made up for the little girl. That sucks. But
Rebecca Smith:I love everything he does.
Angeline Compau:He should be in every season. Now. From here on out. Ryan Murphy. Listen to me. Won't steer you wrong.
Rebecca Smith:Won't steer you wrong. All right. So those are the murders. Anything to add?
Angeline Compau:No, but I like I like that one.
Rebecca Smith:So how many of those Have you seen? You've seen the new Amityville? You haven't seen the old one?
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:you've seen how many conjurings
Angeline Compau:2
Rebecca Smith:you've seen one and two
Angeline Compau:and then I saw the one Annabel
Rebecca Smith:and the one annable but nothing Annabel comes home. And you haven't seen the Conjuring the devil made me do it was there a conjuring three. I don't even know how many there are now.
Angeline Compau:I saw the nun also.
Rebecca Smith:Oh Yeah, the Nun
Angeline Compau:but I didn't understand anything of it. Then I fell asleep.
Rebecca Smith:Oh, have you seen the exorcist?
Angeline Compau:Yeah. I read the book, which the book made. I read the book in high school.
Rebecca Smith:Oh, I didn't read in high school. I just read it recently.
Angeline Compau:I was in high school. I was like a freshman. And I did do a book report on it. And
Rebecca Smith:you did a book or the exorcist?
Angeline Compau:Yeah. they let me pick whatever book I wanted.
Rebecca Smith:Nice.
Angeline Compau:So after I read that, I slept with my mom for like, a month after because that book was terrifying.
Rebecca Smith:The book was way more graphic than than the movie
Angeline Compau:Oh my god. It was it was so it was so bad. I couldn't sleep. it was so scary. scarier than the movie for sure.
Rebecca Smith:I think the scariest book The first scary book. I remember reading was Pet Cemetery.
Angeline Compau:Oh, I should read that one.
Rebecca Smith:And that freaked me out
Angeline Compau:I've seen that movie. That's a good movie.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah.
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Pascow.
Angeline Compau:Oh,
Rebecca Smith:crazy. Alright. Let's get turd back in here.
Angeline Compau:Okay.
Rebecca Smith:What were his topics again?
Angeline Compau:Oh, his teasers that he told us. It was he said women's dress code which we already went over that.
Rebecca Smith:I know he has a thing about it. Because Yeah, there was an incident.
Angeline Compau:Oh, I remember this incident.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:I heard about it. I forgot. Okay. And then what else did he say?
Rebecca Smith:I can't remember.
Angeline Compau:And it was like five minutes five minutes ago.
Rebecca Smith:All right. We'll get him in here. He can explain it.
Angeline Compau:All right.
Josh Smith:I can't believe it's been a whole week.
Rebecca Smith:So fast
Josh Smith:I missed you guys so much
Rebecca Smith:it went by so fast
Angeline Compau:check.
Josh Smith:Good to, Good to hear from you guys. .
Rebecca Smith:Oh Josh, did you hear we got a review on our website?
Josh Smith:Oh, what'd they say
Angeline Compau:you didn't check though. So if you can give me a check,
Josh Smith:check check.
Rebecca Smith:geez louise
Angeline Compau:what the fuck
Rebecca Smith:it takes you forever
Josh Smith:I'm looking at my
Angeline Compau:you leave me hanging?
Josh Smith:sorry. I was looking at my
Angeline Compau:your topics.
Josh Smith:Yes.
Rebecca Smith:We can't remember we only remember the one.
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Okay, Josh, it says, My favorite things about this podcast number one, Greg Louganis.
Josh Smith:Boom
Rebecca Smith:Number two, Josh's curmudgeon report
Josh Smith:boom!
Rebecca Smith:Number Three Check, check, check.
Josh Smith:Yeah, That's hysterical.
Angeline Compau:I love it.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah.
Angeline Compau:I love it.
Josh Smith:I did you say we already talked about women's dress code.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah, you brought it up before
Angeline Compau:you did.
Josh Smith:Okay.
Angeline Compau:But no, I want to hear this.
Rebecca Smith:But there was an incident
Angeline Compau:there was an incident.
Josh Smith:I don't want to talk about work.
Rebecca Smith:No, let's talk about the incident.
Josh Smith:There wasn't an incident.
Rebecca Smith:Women's Dress code is work you're the one that brought it up
Josh Smith:I just think that
Angeline Compau:women need to dress more modestly
Josh Smith:you shouldn't? Well,
Angeline Compau:in the workplace,
Josh Smith:the workplace. I don't know that you should be showing your whole chest.
Angeline Compau:You should not lets talk about it
Rebecca Smith:The chestal region
Angeline Compau:tell us
Josh Smith:You know.
Rebecca Smith:It's not like she had her boobs hanging out.
Angeline Compau:She might have I don't know.
Rebecca Smith:Did you see nipples?
Josh Smith:If it was my daughter? I said no.
Angeline Compau:It only counts if you saw a nipple.
Josh Smith:I did not see nipple.
Rebecca Smith:I can't see you, Josh.
Angeline Compau:I'm like super.
Josh Smith:Do you want to see my nipple?
Rebecca Smith:No. Definitely no.
Angeline Compau:Wait, I want to talk about the incident.
Josh Smith:I don't like to discuss work.
Rebecca Smith:Why did you bring this up? What's your topic?
Josh Smith:my topic on dress code? Is that women and again, men should have a dress code. That's not the subject. So I'm not saying you know, men can wear whatever they want. And women.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, no, they can't.
Rebecca Smith:No, they can't. I'm not
Josh Smith:I'm not trying to institute Sharia law here. I'm just saying in the workplace. Your chest should be mostly covered up. Shouldn't be able to see your bra.
Angeline Compau:Okay, good. Yeah, good point.
Josh Smith:Shouldn't be I mean, we got to think about from the nipple up. There's got to be like a measurement. Like if you like you shouldn't be able to see your full boob.
Rebecca Smith:Well, first of all, you should always wear a bra.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:well, there's that
Rebecca Smith:then yes, I agree. There shouldn't be a lot of cleavage showing.
Josh Smith:It's because people are gonna stare and then you're gonna get all mad that people are staring and then you're still like, I don't want people to stare at me. So I wear pants.
Rebecca Smith:Is there a dress code in your handbook?
Josh Smith:I don't know.
Rebecca Smith:Well, that's your number one thing to find out
Angeline Compau:you should find out.
Josh Smith:i gotta read the handbook, alright dammit
Rebecca Smith:you have to read,
Angeline Compau:damn you handbook.
Rebecca Smith:Speaking of reading, Angeline
Josh Smith:its hot in here isn't it
Rebecca Smith:Dune.
Angeline Compau:I have not read Dune.
Josh Smith:Why not?
Rebecca Smith:I'm gonna read it on the plane.
Angeline Compau:I gotta tell you
Josh Smith:you to fall asleep in like four seconds
Angeline Compau:I gotta tell you Josh, Dune is not good.
Josh Smith:Oh Angeline, You're so so foolish.
Rebecca Smith:so young and foolish.
Josh Smith:Millions and millions and millions of people have read that novel and said no.
Angeline Compau:I gave it A really good go at first.
Josh Smith:How many Pages did you get into it?
Rebecca Smith:She's not even 100 pages in
Angeline Compau:no, I think I am 100
Rebecca Smith:100 pages in?
Angeline Compau:I'll tell you what, I get home. It looks like I haven't even made a dent in the book. But I know I've read
Rebecca Smith:do you remember what
Angeline Compau:the first part? I read. I read the first part. I'm pretty sure
Rebecca Smith:you read all of part one.
Angeline Compau:I think so.
Rebecca Smith:Oh, but then you're like 250 pages in
Angeline Compau:Oh, Maybe I am. I don't know. Maybe i'm not? I'll let you know when I get home. But either way I got that far. And I was like, it's boring. I know. he's upset
Josh Smith:I don't know how to have a conversation with you on that.
Rebecca Smith:dang it, I want to Instagram Live that look again.
Josh Smith:You gotta deposit that check.
Rebecca Smith:I did.
Josh Smith:Oh, and there's $900 in there. You can take some of that for your trip. I just remembered
Angeline Compau:oh my god. Yeah, do that.
Josh Smith:Cuz I was looking for the passwords today in there.
Rebecca Smith:Make it rain?
Josh Smith:I do want to talk about women's lips.
Angeline Compau:That's right
Josh Smith:This is on you Hollywood.
Angeline Compau:Their lips on their face?
Rebecca Smith:Or
Josh Smith:I have not seen this in normal
Angeline Compau:their labia
Josh Smith:no the lips on their face. you've got to stop injecting shit into your lips. Listen, it looks terrible. You look like an idiot. Seriously, now you're paying to look worse. And you need to be mocked. mocked because you're stupid.
Angeline Compau:Yes.
Josh Smith:Stop injecting things and you seriously look like a fish. It's horrible. Why would you do it?
Rebecca Smith:I'm getting them
Angeline Compau:no you're not.
Rebecca Smith:Mm, hm
Angeline Compau:You're lying. Yeah, you are. Yeah, you're lying
Josh Smith:Have you guys seen this? tell me, tell me you've seen this? It's terrible
Rebecca Smith:some girls like a fuller lip,
Angeline Compau:okay, but and if you like it good for you and do it, whatever, but I have not really seen anybody who's done it That looks good.
Josh Smith:No. Looks like you're stuck with a hotdog and your lip.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:which I gotta be honest. I like hotdogs but not for lips
Angeline Compau:that's hilarious
Josh Smith:horrible It's horrible. Oh by the way
Rebecca Smith:do you know anybody that like in person?
Josh Smith:No, it's only Hollywood people that have fucking done that
Rebecca Smith:so you only see people on TV don't see like any eal life people.
Josh Smith:No, no.
Rebecca Smith:well good thing we don't live in LA.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:I'd make fun of them openly on the street. That's terrible, you look like shit.
Rebecca Smith:I think it depends on where you go. Like I I feel like if you get it done like, I don't know if you if it's something you have to keep doing.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:really?
Rebecca Smith:You have to keep filling them.
Josh Smith:Does it go away?
Rebecca Smith:I don't know.
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Botox goes away. goes away.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, filler does too. It takes a lot longer, but it will eventually dissolve. It's hylouronic acid.
Rebecca Smith:so you just keep filling and filling and filling.
Angeline Compau:Well here's the other thing though. That happens right? You fill your lips up. They're ginormous for like a year or so I don't remember how long they last. Now it dissolves and your lips are deflated. So now you look stupid.
Josh Smith:You look stupid both ways.
Angeline Compau:Yeah. So now you have to keep doing it.
Josh Smith:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:yeah.
Josh Smith:Yeah, yeah. I would say you're smarter than that. But based on the way I see that the people think some of you Hollywood actresses say I'm not sure that you are smarter than that at this point, but fake it fake it that you're smarter and don't do this because you look horrible.
Rebecca Smith:There's also a big thing now like we're a lot of women are taking their implants out in Hollywood, I'm noticing. And everybody's like, yeah, take them out blah, blah. But yet you're still injecting your face with all sorts of shit.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:right.
Rebecca Smith:So I'm not getting where thats a big.
Josh Smith:You're not bright. You look terrible.
Rebecca Smith:no, not all
Josh Smith:Most of you, all of you.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, Kylie Jenner. I will say I like her lips. And that is it.
Rebecca Smith:There you go.
Josh Smith:It's Kylie Jenner. The former Bruce Jenner is that the same one?
Angeline Compau:no, that's Caitlyn.
Rebecca Smith:That's Caitlyn Jenner. That's his daughter
Angeline Compau:his daughter Kylie had really thin lips.
Rebecca Smith:She did
Angeline Compau:and, and she looks good.
Rebecca Smith:Do you know what she looks like josh?
Angeline Compau:If you saw a before and after her? You'd be like, whoa. Whoa, she looks good. I like it.
Josh Smith:skeptical
Rebecca Smith:and she built an empire on lip sticks.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:good for you.
Rebecca Smith:hers look pretty natural.
Josh Smith:Hand it all the way over here.
Angeline Compau:Here ya go
Josh Smith:the're a little big.
Angeline Compau:They're big, but they look good. And I don't know how they got her shape to look that good because
Josh Smith:It doesn't look good, at best it's passible
Angeline Compau:I see. well passing is pretty good.
Josh Smith:You gotta pay for surgery for passable Come on people.
Angeline Compau:I've seen some people no looking good
Josh Smith:I'm gonna get some calf implants. implants on my calves I think that's the thing too. Alright. So this is a topic that is near and dear to my heart. Scott claxton's heart, a few others. Listen,
Rebecca Smith:yes.
Josh Smith:late October, early November. It's the rut it's the best hunting period it's when good things in hunting happen. You see the most deer? The male deer the buck if you will.
Angeline Compau:Oh my gosh,
Josh Smith:it loses for that moment all the things are it doesn't become as it's less cautious than it normally is. This is when you hunt and everybody knows this even non hunting men know this it's it's it's well known Stop fucking inviting. My wife and I to stuff on the weekends in late October early November. What are you doing?
Rebecca Smith:Who invited us places?
Josh Smith:You're causing problems and I expect a better
Rebecca Smith:nobody invited us anywhere.
Angeline Compau:Oh my god. That's funny.
Josh Smith:We got john and Jody's thing and we got my friend Gary who knows damn well
Rebecca Smith:but that's like a Friday night I thought
Josh Smith:still
Angeline Compau:he's busy
Josh Smith:rut territory
Angeline Compau:he's busy.
Josh Smith:All social engagements cease during during late October,
Rebecca Smith:we don't get invited to social engagements we got to take them when we can
Josh Smith:That's true but you're inviting us during the rut,
Angeline Compau:why don't you just not go I bet people would be a lot more happy anyway that you are there
Josh Smith:I am not sure you might be right.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:I don't think though...
Rebecca Smith:this is what's stupid about this whole thing.
Angeline Compau:Okay,
Rebecca Smith:is usually he hunts in the morning. And so he's home by 11am. Anyway,
Josh Smith:Oh no I switched to evening hunting two years ago
Rebecca Smith:but even if your evening hunting you can't hunt in the dark and so if this thing starts at 730 7 730 it's already dark
Josh Smith:yeah, but last shots probably 715
Angeline Compau:you don't hunt in the dark?
Josh Smith:if you get a deer you can't
Angeline Compau:why?
Josh Smith:it's illegal
Angeline Compau:Oh it is Oh, I was like I feel like that's a good time to hunt
Josh Smith:if I get a deer at 715 I'm not going to be home til 9 or 10
Rebecca Smith:that's why you see them on the roads at night, that's the only time it's safe for them to roam around
Angeline Compau:they run into my car and shit when I hate deer
Josh Smith:I'm trying to keep the population down do my best I just I just feel like if I don't I expect the men
Rebecca Smith:saying I'm just saying how long is hunting season
Josh Smith:october november and part of December
Rebecca Smith:so you have three months of hunting?
Josh Smith:Well no, you have three months to hunt but the rut is not three months. The rut is the key
Angeline Compau:you should name that something else the rut sounds bad
Josh Smith:the rut is not my name is the name
Angeline Compau:okay well you should fix it but
Josh Smith:so you got
Angeline Compau:it's not a good name
Josh Smith:you got your chase phase which is late October
Rebecca Smith:oh my gosh
Josh Smith:peak rut early November up to about November 15 when gun open happens and that's when you see the most movement by males.
Rebecca Smith:Why does it have to be male?
Josh Smith:more meat, bigger deer you're always trying to get a buck I mean you'll take a doe but you want the buck like Angeline here she'll sleep with a woman but she wants a man
Angeline Compau:oh my gosh that's funny.
Josh Smith:She's trophy hunting
Rebecca Smith:Way to go Angeline
Josh Smith:but she'll settle
Angeline Compau:I'll settle. whatever
Josh Smith:I got that insult in. You're welcome. that was a good one.
Angeline Compau:I will give you that that was really good. I like it.
Rebecca Smith:I still think it's if if on a day that were invited somewhere maybe switch up your routine and hunt in the morning that day
Josh Smith:here's the problem with the morning hunt which I'm kind of have to do that. I I like to take shits in the morning it happens and you cannot sit out there and hunt and have to take a shit it's miserable
Rebecca Smith:wear a diaper.
Angeline Compau:wear a diaper
Josh Smith:i'm not going to wear a diaper. And then some dude's would say shit in the woods, but you can't take a shit in the woods by your hunting stand one your gonna make way too much noise.
Rebecca Smith:so walk away, shit and then come back
Angeline Compau:They'll smell it
Josh Smith:The scent but here's the other part
Rebecca Smith:It smells like shit, that's what they smell all the time anyway.
Josh Smith:Here's the problem. There's there's so many people that put hunting cameras out I do. I don't want to see a video of me taking a shit in the woods. because it would be on the internet I don't see I don't want to see myself taking a shit I don't want to know what that looks like.
Rebecca Smith:No one's gonna know it's you. You're all cameo'd upno one knows its you except for you.
Josh Smith:I'll shit in the woods if it's an emergency, but I don't want to shit in the woods
Rebecca Smith:i've shit in the woods before.
Angeline Compau:Wear diaper I really like that idea.
Josh Smith:I'm not wearing a diaper.
Angeline Compau:Just do it.
Josh Smith:I've had to come home before I'm like oh , this is a good hunt and I'm like oh man...
Angeline Compau:now I gotta poop
Josh Smith:I gotta take a big shit. I gotta go home.
Angeline Compau:That's funny.
Rebecca Smith:I know a guy that does that lions game doesn't wear a diaper. But where's the thing like some kind of contraption? That hooks to his Wiener that he pees in
Josh Smith:stadium buddy?
Rebecca Smith:I don't know what, that's stupid
Josh Smith:Yeah, I would never do it but I've seen this before
Angeline Compau:What's the point?
Rebecca Smith:you pee and its like a bag and it fills up like a bag on his leg.
Angeline Compau:Why?
Rebecca Smith:So that he doesn't have to leave the game to go to the bathroom and
Angeline Compau:cuz that's bad?
Rebecca Smith:he gets back gets home and empties it. Yeah, he doesn't want to miss in the game.
Josh Smith:It's it's stupid.
Angeline Compau:Go at halftime
Josh Smith:You're walking around with a bag of piss snaped to your leg. gonna fucking smell like Obby
Angeline Compau:oh my god.
Josh Smith:Fucking piss boy
Rebecca Smith:Obby always smells like piss
Josh Smith:Like my kid. my kid's the piss boy
Rebecca Smith:his name is Obby or Robbie one of those obby names
Angeline Compau:that's hilarious
Josh Smith:It's a Dane Cook reference.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:just in case you didn't know that Greg, wanted o let you know. So that was a topic and and that goes out o all the hunters out the e because they're all going y u know, yeah, he's right. Which I knew th
Rebecca Smith:all the hunters that listen to our show.
Angeline Compau:Hunting, I don't get it.
Josh Smith:So the other topic which is not a long topic, but in this new cancel culture. I don't understand something. So the friends that you've had for 20 years it's not not racial terms, but it's still okay to use to really insult people, your friends, you know, striking below the belt, right? That's still ok
Rebecca Smith:Below the belt like what?
Josh Smith:Well not below the belt, but I mean, you know, good hard, solid insults. That's still okay. As long as it's a friend. Is that am I my on safe ground here?
Angeline Compau:I think so. Because if you're their friend, you would know what they would find offensive and not right?
Josh Smith:Yeah. Okay,
Rebecca Smith:why? Why is this a curmudgeon?
Josh Smith:I just wanted to know I did I did give a great insult the other day I told one of my buddies he's a great guy by the way, but he took A picture and it wasn't. He's gotten a little bigger over the years and he his neck looked huge in a picture and I sent him a text like you were saying that you switch to past the size 38 waist jeans is your neck size past 30
Angeline Compau:Oh my god.
Josh Smith:It was awesome.
Angeline Compau:that is Funny.
Josh Smith:I did. It was awesome.
Rebecca Smith:Angeline, I don't insult you like that.
Angeline Compau:No, I don't insult you like that either.
Rebecca Smith:I do. Actually. Yeah.
Josh Smith:I insult Angeline like that.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:Me and Jody, were talking about that at one time remember and we were saying like god Imagine if we talk to each other like the guys talk to each other so now every time Jodi and I text it's like what's up, you dirty whore.
Angeline Compau:that's Funny
Josh Smith:if you've been friends for as long as we have you know, we that is okay. I still think it's okay. Now again, no racial terms. No.
Rebecca Smith:Well you guys have gotten.
Josh Smith:No. we've gotten cleaned up
Rebecca Smith:Not racial.
Josh Smith:Not me, I'm good on that. No, no,
Rebecca Smith:but you guys do like to insult each other a lot. And each other's wives.
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Josh Smith:No, you know the wives of kinda
Rebecca Smith:died out.
Josh Smith:died out over the years. Yeah. it has. and kids are off limits. I mean, in a vulgar way that is
Angeline Compau:Yeah, leave kids out of it. They suck on their own anyway, we already know that we don't have to talk about it.
Josh Smith:Yeah, speaking of kids, I was asking Beck, do you want kids Angeline?
Angeline Compau:I don't know I'm not like trying to like have them
Josh Smith:from what I understand you are trying to
Rebecca Smith:ha ha boning, he means Boning.
Angeline Compau:Well, yeah, but if I have some I'm cool if I don't I'm cool.
Josh Smith:So you're not it's not like one of your lifelong goals is to have kids
Angeline Compau:no
Josh Smith:like some people it is neither good nor bad. I'm just saying it's not yours goal.
Angeline Compau:Not no not ultimately.
Josh Smith:Okay.
Angeline Compau:I mean, I guess that'd be cool to have but at this point in my life I'm like kind of thinking about I'm like, I don't want to take care of you. I kind of just want to go do my thing.
Josh Smith:Why? the cat just stabbed me in the arm
Angeline Compau:that's what you get for being a dickbag.
Rebecca Smith:Come here wilbur, you can come sit with momma
Josh Smith:Oh no, we have to discuss so when you are feeding the dog
Angeline Compau:okay are you gonna leave me a note.
Josh Smith:I may or may not have to take the dog to the farm.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:that sounds like you are gonna kill him
Angeline Compau:Yeah that doesn't sound good
Josh Smith:and I don't I don't think it's a good idea. I think Beck was right because I think I'm going to be like
Rebecca Smith:you're going to be too worried about the dog at all times. I think you should leave Jasper here and then Angeline
Josh Smith:you know what he would do he just sit out there and bark at everybody for hours. And the one guy that can I can I can it won't faze me
Rebecca Smith:Yeah, but everybody else will get annoyed
Josh Smith:Yeah, so if I don't get home till like midnight or something I'm gonna have to
Angeline Compau:you're gonna have to have me come back
Josh Smith:pay you for your services.
Angeline Compau:Oh.
Josh Smith:dog walking services dog feeding
Rebecca Smith:you don't have to walk him, you just have to let him out on his leash.
Angeline Compau:Okay.
Josh Smith:Wilbur gets chin pets
Rebecca Smith:all you have to do is lay on the couch and watch TV and just pet him
Angeline Compau:I yeah, I'm gonna catch up on vanderpump rules.
Josh Smith:Well you need to give wilbur his chin pets. And you can watch the Foundation
Rebecca Smith:Wilbur did you just wipe your butt on the carpet.
Angeline Compau:No. Will not watch that.
Josh Smith:Why
Angeline Compau:it doesn't sound very good.
Josh Smith:Did you give it a shot you know? a tester?
Angeline Compau:Maybe I'll give it a tester.
Josh Smith:There is a digiorno pizza in the freezer upstairs.
Angeline Compau:I feel like you're gonna want that.
Josh Smith:It's fine. I thought you were gong shopping
Rebecca Smith:I do.
Josh Smith:So I have to put together a list tonight.
Rebecca Smith:Yes,
Josh Smith:okay. All right.
Rebecca Smith:If you want to eat while I'm gone Angeline you whatever you want on that list Tell me I'll.
Angeline Compau:Oh, okay. Oh, my
Rebecca Smith:that's why I told April that Ryder really needs to get his driver's license so that we can hire him to house sit for us.
Josh Smith:If Ryder's house sitting over here there's gonna be
Rebecca Smith:I told April I said, Where else is he gonna have his girlfriend and get some alone time?
Angeline Compau:Right?
Rebecca Smith:she's like, No, no, I'm like, come on.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:you know it would happen right? Of course that would happen
Angeline Compau:that would happen
Rebecca Smith:that's what you do when you house sit.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:it's gonna be a lot of bonin
Rebecca Smith:Bonin.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:Ryder's gonna nickname our house the stabbing shack.
Rebecca Smith:Stabbin Cabin.
Angeline Compau:Stabbin Cabin
Josh Smith:Hey, where you going Ryder, I'm going over to the stabbin cabin on Davison lake.
Rebecca Smith:don't worry about me guys. No, we just have one rule. No parties. You can have a friend or two over no parties. What is it? no parties? No booze? No what?
Josh Smith:no booze, no parties? No drugs.
Angeline Compau:Okay.
Josh Smith:Don't play with my guns.
Angeline Compau:Good rules,
Rebecca Smith:which we'll probably take the guns out of the house anyway
Josh Smith:Angeline, could you not play with the guns as well.
Angeline Compau:Okay. Yeah. All right.
Josh Smith:One of them is loaded,
Angeline Compau:because you asked nicely.
Josh Smith:It is loaded. Okay. One of them. You just have to guess which one.
Rebecca Smith:know if Ryder, Just by pulling the trigger yourself guess Which one it is?
Angeline Compau:I'm gonna stay upstairs
Josh Smith:okay
Rebecca Smith:yeah we'll take the guns out we used to do that when Joey stayed
Josh Smith:Not for Angeline
Rebecca Smith:not for Angeline, but for Ryder when he get's his license
Angeline Compau:okay I'm gonna tell you some of our Ryder most conscientious kid you is
Rebecca Smith:yeah but I don't want to be responsible if he has a friend over and I don't know that person, that kind of stuff so it's easier just to take everything out of the house
Angeline Compau:yeah
Rebecca Smith:take it over to claxons or Joe's
Angeline Compau:he would probably be like so nervous to even have a kid over like this isn't my house I don't want
Rebecca Smith:I know
Angeline Compau:he's like that you
Rebecca Smith:he can have Jacqueline over though
Angeline Compau:he's adorable and she's super respectful.
Rebecca Smith:Yes
Angeline Compau:his girlfriend is so nice.
Josh Smith:I don't think April's down with that.
Rebecca Smith:Why I think April would be down with that
Josh Smith:really
Angeline Compau:I don't know. I don't know. But knowing Rob and April when they were his age.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:it's like you guys got to know
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:ya'll gotta know,
Josh Smith:of course they know they're 15,000 children
Rebecca Smith:why did you say it like that.
Angeline Compau:That was weird. That was great.
Josh Smith:Just kids everywhere around.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:what's funny I think what how many kids does your other brother have?
Angeline Compau:six
Josh Smith:oh my gosh
Angeline Compau:I know it's a lot of kids
Josh Smith:when you guys get together is it just mayhem?
Angeline Compau:Oh my god. It is it's absolute mayhem. When we like any family event get together Christmas whatever. You have to you have to buy food for 15 people. Like that's the minimum and then you got to add any other guests to it. So just it's it's insane. The house is full. It's loud. You can't talk to anyone you can't hear.
Josh Smith:What do you do?
Rebecca Smith:That's like when I asked her about watching a show.
Angeline Compau:just sit in the fetal position and cry.
Rebecca Smith:If you watch a show Rob and April's. She's like you can't watch a show over there.
Angeline Compau:No. it's too loud
Rebecca Smith:It's always too loud, somebody's always talking. You can't sit and watch a movie.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, yeah. Unless it's something they want to watch.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah.
Josh Smith:Yeah.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, it's loud. Just
Rebecca Smith:Josh would like that.
Josh Smith:you could watch anything you want while you're helping us out with Jasper.
Angeline Compau:Oh, good. I will
Josh Smith:make sure she knows how us how to work the TV.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, cuz I don't
Rebecca Smith:Okay.
Angeline Compau:Give me a lesson.
Rebecca Smith:I will
Josh Smith:I will make a grocery list tonight. So I'm gonna tell you what's gonna be on it. soups. tots. Bulk and don't buy brand name tots. They literally taste the same. They're all the same
Rebecca Smith:I usually buy the generic ones
Josh Smith:you should
Angeline Compau:That's hilarious.
Josh Smith:Stoffer's
Rebecca Smith:Pizza rolls?
Josh Smith:No pizza rolls.
Angeline Compau:What?
Josh Smith:It's not that I don't think they are good
Rebecca Smith:You want pizza rolls Angeline, I can get you pizza rolls.
Josh Smith:stoffer's French bread pizzas.
Rebecca Smith:gross
Angeline Compau:you're good. Those are good too buy those for Josh.
Josh Smith:Yeah. What six pack of coke and that's it
Rebecca Smith:like regular size.
Angeline Compau:That's funny
Rebecca Smith:or tiny size.
Josh Smith:Regular regulators
Rebecca Smith:regulate
Josh Smith:look at Wilbur.
Rebecca Smith:What's up Wilbur
Josh Smith:He just heard that word? regulate? He's like oh yeah, I'm ready.
Angeline Compau:He's a great cat.
Rebecca Smith:I think he was just wiping his butt on the carpet though,
Angeline Compau:that's awesome
Josh Smith:no, no, no. He licks his butt to clean he doesn't wipe it.
Rebecca Smith:I swear to God, he was
Angeline Compau:scooting
Rebecca Smith:scooting.
Josh Smith:Great. Thanks Wilbur. fucking stain.
Angeline Compau:Oh, man,
Josh Smith:that's what he left us was a stain.
Rebecca Smith:He's musking up that carpet pretty good.
Angeline Compau:Oh my god, I gotta tell you this story. My mom doesn't listen, thank God. But my cat threw up by the carpet yesterday that I heard her doing it. And I was like, Oh my god, no. And then I looked at I was like, Oh, you just threw up some foamy crap. It's fine. It's fine. Whatever. I'll clean it up. Tomorrow. I'm going to bed.
Rebecca Smith:Ah,
Angeline Compau:I left it right. And then like 1015 minutes later, my cat catches a mouse and I hear it sound like crap. And I gotta get up. And I gotta wander over in the dark. I'm looking for a box because I always trap it in a shoe box. And what do I step in her barf. That's exactly what I get for not cleaning it up
Josh Smith:Justice
Angeline Compau:it was the worst
Josh Smith:did the cat kill the mouse?
Angeline Compau:No, she doesn't kill them. She likes to play with them. That's why I always take over and I go to catch it. And I let it go. that thing was fast.
Rebecca Smith:I thought you guys getting that the house fixed was going to take care of that.
Angeline Compau:So we did. But here's what happened because my mom was going to have the whole house caulked at the same time. But my uncle was like, Well, I'm coming to town. I'll do it for free. And so our house has not been caulked this whole time and all around like the electrical boxes and things outside. None of that's been caulked. And I think that's how they're still getting into these little cracks. And I'm like y'all bitches
Josh Smith:crevices,
Angeline Compau:crevasses?
Rebecca Smith:Yeah, the vast crevices,
Angeline Compau:but I heard.
Josh Smith:of Angeline
Angeline Compau:I heard if you shove steel wool in there, the mice don't like it so they won't chew through it. So that's what we did. We put some steel wool in there. Hopefully, that stops it
Josh Smith:Good job on the steel wool.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:but your uncle's here now so he can caulk it right?
Angeline Compau:Yeah, he started he hasn't finished. Yeah, right. He's here for another couple of weeks.
Josh Smith:So that's awesome.
Angeline Compau:Yeah. Yeah, he's got lots of time. Yup
Josh Smith:Alright, I'm gonna go to the store and get a red Gatorade or coke, I don't know.
Angeline Compau:Oh, you like red Gatorade. Now?
Josh Smith:I admitted it.
Angeline Compau:I know. Try the blue.
Rebecca Smith:Why don't you try blue?
Angeline Compau:Try blue. Try it. Try the white one too. While you're at it.
Josh Smith:I don't know if I want a coke to stay up. Or if I want a gatorade.
Rebecca Smith:Why do you want to stay up?
Josh Smith:I don't know. I really like to make it to 930
Angeline Compau:I think you can do
Josh Smith:really tired. I slept a lot last night.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah.
Angeline Compau:I woke up at like 11
Josh Smith:I had a few beers.
Rebecca Smith:you did
Angeline Compau:Yes.
Rebecca Smith:I woke up at 630
Josh Smith:I woke up at Like, 10
Rebecca Smith:I went to bed at one.
Angeline Compau:I went to bed at one. Yeah. Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Anxiety, trip anxiety.
Josh Smith:Um, so are you flying first class?
Rebecca Smith:I wish, i didn't know that was an option
Josh Smith:we should look tomorrow. Oh.
Rebecca Smith:I'm flying American thought, I am not flying Delta
Josh Smith:oh, Fuck you. I'm sorry
Angeline Compau:Oh, rude.
Josh Smith:All right. I'm going to store
Rebecca Smith:later bitches
Josh Smith:that the end of my curmudgeon show see you, Greg.
Angeline Compau:Bye Greg Louganis,
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Angeline Compau:You know you really are, cuz I don't do any of this. I don't do any of it.
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